(NOTE for technical reasons too complex to go into here, please add 30 seconds to each timestamp!) Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:00:00]: Hey! Hello. Hello. Welcome back. Great to have you for another episode. And I'm bringing a rather exciting guest on this. This time, my guest is a gentleman called David Baum. David is he's a 65 year old tutu wearing man from Bushy in Hertfordshire. Yes, you heard that right. A tutu wearing man. We'll find out why later on. But David is married to Mel. He's the father of two sons. He's a grandfather, and he is known as the Man in the Tutu across the world. He's also seen as the Joe Wicks for the older generation. David is rightly proud of the Move for Wellness, which is something he's created and which is changing and improving people's lives. That's my guest. This episode david Baum let's bring him in. Hello, David. How are you doing? David Baum [00:00:50]: I'm doing fine, Keith. And thank you very much for allowing me to entertain you and your amazing audience. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:00:58]: Thank you for joining us. Thank you. We'll get to the tutu in a moment. Before we do, we've heard the bio, but who is David? Who is the man behind the bio? David Baum [00:01:09]: Oh, that's a tricky question. Many people have asked that question. Some are still looking for the answer. But as you said, I'm 65 years old, live over in Hertfordshire. I'm married to Mel. We've been married we'll be 40 years next month. We have two sons and a fabulous granddaughter. And I've been told I'm not one of life's Peter Pans. I'm just one of the life positive people. And my philosophy in life is always just enjoy the day, get out, enjoy the sunshine, enjoy the trees. Even if it's a bit cloudy. There's always something you enjoy out of life, like making differences to people's life, if possible. Sometimes making laugh is even better. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:01:59]: Very true. Very true. I love that philosophy as well. We mentioned it in the bio, so we might as well dive straight in. What's this about a two two? What's going on with the two two there? David Baum [00:02:13]: Okay. Right. I was at a networking meeting. We're just setting this up, and someone said, I'll give you 50 quid if you go for a run wearing your tutor. For 50 quid. Hey, as long as I can keep my clothes and I'll do it, no problem. I've actually run in a tutor before for race for life. When those days when it wasn't generally accepted men ran a race for life. I went as Divina. My son Oliver went as Olivia. And we both wore tutus and sprayed our hair, et cetera. And this little old lady says, excuse me, dearie. Sounded very much like Mr. Doubtfire, you having hormone difficulties. I see. And I said, my best, Danny Dyer. What you mean, lady? Anyway, so that I've done that before. Anyway, I've been out running. No one seemed to see me, wore tutu, and cars were hooting and going. And it occurred to me that no one sees a runner if you're going out, you just see a runner, you see an old malware in tutu and a couple so I just went out and started wearing the tutu. People would ask me why, which is a perfect example of why you should do something like that, because it gives people a reason to ask. I can't go up to somebody on the train and go, hey, have you heard about the move for wellness? But if I'm on the train and someone says to me, why are you ready to quick tip for anyone out there. If you don't want to know the answer, don't ask the question. Especially about old man in a bandana and tutor. Anyway, I was doing the breakstowns run a couple of years ago. There was a few people wearing tutors and I said, one girl, lovely girl playing a bright orange one, running, I think, for some sort of eating disorder. Why was she wearing a tutor? A friend of mine pointed something out on Facebook. Some old guy was wearing a tutor to draw attention. And I thought it was a great idea. So I'm wearing one and I thought, I'm not going to tell her. My job is done, it works. And I just did the London Marathon. There were a few people, two, two wearers I went to a run last Saturday, ten k. And it was a coronation run. It was great. Amazing medal for running on the dead of coronation. But there was a group of young people, one girl was celebrating her 22nd place. Their birthdays are a group of them and they're all wearing tutors. And again, we saw something on social media and we thought, what a great way, it's fabulous. And people are keep asking us while we weighing tutors, positive affirmation. And I keep saying two. Two power wins. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:05:04]: Yeah. And you're right, people don't don't notice the runner. But if there's if there's something different, yeah, you get noticed. And it gives, as you say, it gives you that that conversation starter. David Baum [00:05:27]: Red beard. Again, it was this people, they love the beard, love the and it was just something that drew their eye out of 50 of thousand runners for that moment they saw me. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:05:43]: Yeah, which is great. Yeah. It's great to have that unique hook that helps you stand out, for sure. So, I mean, you run, you do marathons and other such crazy things. Have you always been a runner or? David Baum [00:05:59]: No. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:05:59]: Is this something that stumble into it? David Baum [00:06:03]: Well, I used to ride bikes back oh, God, probably about 30 years ago. I was asked to take part in a bike ride cycle of charity. I hadn't ridden a bike since leaving school. My cousin let me a bike over 30 miles, did some rant training and found I enjoyed it. So I did a few more and out doing around London and all sorts of weird and wonderful London Cambridge. But my joy and love of cycling ended on the fourth time I was knocked off bike, ended up with a couple of broken ribs, and discovered that you can't swim if you've got broken ribs. And my wife and I were off to holiday, getting the seat, and I started to realize I really couldn't swim. It was just too painful. And I stopped enjoying it. I went on a spin bike, no problem, still do that. And then somebody in the gym and I was talking to Lady Nina, said, Why don't you run? I said, Well, I can't run more than about a mile at my back hurts. And she said, Let me see how you run. And she very within 30 seconds said, that's where you're going wrong. And she changed my gate. This is how you should, David, for you. And I trust her because she's a physiotherapist. And she said, in this way, unfortunately, I won't be see too often, david, if you've run like you Cameron like that, I'll be seeing you next week. So I set off. Then we had the lockdown, and I suddenly realized I actually liked going out running. There was no idea of running marathons or anything like that, just running. And the more I did, the more I enjoyed. And I loved the feeling, going out early, especially with no cars about, but hearing birds and this wonderful freedom. And I decided, oh, I'm going to be so very sensible. I would actually get a take part in an official ten K bound Regents part. How hard can that be? I run more than that. It's not that easy. Anyone tells you it's easy to run these things because it's all about understand nutrition, hydration, et cetera. And so I had a couple of other races, and I realized I actually needed someone to actually help me train to run so that I could do half marathons, I could do ten mile runs, I could do the marathon if I wanted to do it. So I remember a fabulous lady called Becky Burke, who I know for about 20 years, almost like a member of the family, and she ran marathons. So I phoned up once, I said, Becky, do you fancy helping an old man learn to run a marathon? And she'd love to, because she used to be my PT. And literally, she took me back to basics, stripped down what my diet had to change, because again, I didn't understand about nutrition. People who hit the wall, they talk about this wall, it's because they got the nutrition right, they haven't got their hydration right. That's half the battle. And then I was supposed to it last year, but I ended up having cellulitis for four months, so that's impossible. So we literally took it. And the day of the marathon, her husband said to me, she was a nervous wreck because she knew you could do it, but she didn't know how you would feel at the end. And I said it was thanks to her that I got through it, because I didn't have the problems with hydration. I didn't have the hitting the wall. I had a problem with my back. And I've learned, going to a boot camp, that it's called Jeffing. You walk and you run. If you watch your marathon or people and you often see people walking, you think they're being lazy. They're not, actually. You walk and you run. You walk and you run. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:09:41]: Okay. David Baum [00:09:42]: And at the end of the day, that's what I got. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:09:45]: Nice. David Baum [00:09:47]: Yeah. And apparently, only 1% of the world's population ever runs a marathon, so I can actually say I'm one of 1%. Sound a bit like the Borg? Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:10:00]: Yeah. Nice. We can see on your banner behind you there, Move for Wellness, which I know is a big thing that you're involved in. What is it? First of all, what is Move for Wellness? David Baum [00:10:19]: We go back again to Lockdown. Previously, they had a different campaign called Three Six Five challenge. It was all about getting ex, people exercising, and raising awareness of PTSD, and it reached the end of its life anyway. And then we had the lockdown. And at that moment, the first lockdown, Summer, it was beautiful. People were out. I was running. Some of the Pts were busy. There was Uncle Joe Wicks doing the PE for children and some of it, and it was great. Positivity. We then roll forward to the second lockdown, which is winter. And my friends, the PT friends, were saying, People are not interested. It's very hard to get people to motivate, to do an online class, even the best of times. And a friend of mine, Sharon, who's ever in cardist, said, I love what you do, David, but I can't do it. It's too much. Three exercises, et cetera. I said okay. But she said, I like the idea of moving. What you do is make me want to move. Okay? So she said, what you're reading is getting people moving to the world. I said, yeah, that sounds about right. I said, Sharon, if I could come up with something, a daily exercise that lasts no more than a couple of minutes that you could do at home without any equipment, would you? So, well, I'll give it a go. So we knew it could be a couple of minutes, because that's the length of a film on Twitter. Two minutes, 20 seconds. That's it. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:11:45]: Okay. David Baum [00:11:46]: So we divide the idea five days a week. Every day would be a different exercise, and sometimes it would be with a piece of equipment, like a resistance band or a hand weight. But every exercise can be done with or without equipment. It can be done if you're able bodied or not so able bodied, because not everybody is. It can be done if you are fit or not fit. And one of the things that's happened with Move for Worldness is it's become a global, not phenomenal because we're not reached that million stage yet. But we've got over 100,000 people around the world following what we're doing, taking part. And I'll look at the demographics not long ago, and the average age is between 45 and 80. Nobody is shredded. Six pack is more like one keg. These are men and women who are not fit, who want to get fit. These are people who do not want to go to a gym because they're frightened of what a gym does. They are still being haunted by their PE at school and often they were the last people picked because they were the least fit. And I love it when I get feedback from there's a lady called Crystal in America, lovely lady. When she started to talk to me, she was in a wheelchair and basically willing her wanting to finish her life. I was able to introduce her to a company called Vox who gave us specific socks that she could wear that would help her. And she started walking and she's just completed the whole thing. She's in Idiating. There's a lady in the UK, Yvonne, who just said that she became type was diagnosed with type two diabetes. But because she'd been following what we had been doing, and I'd been talking about different types of food, diets, lifestyles that you could follow, she decided she was going to try upon the lifestyles that I recommended. I was able to put in touch with the people who do that because I'm not dietitian. But she also included exercise and she's now been told that she's no longer type two diabetic. Diabetic. She's cleansed her body. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:14:05]: Wow. David Baum [00:14:06]: So move for wellness is not I don't anyone think it's about exercise. It's about living a healthier life and understanding that food that they sell is healthy is not it's full of chemicals and that's another subject and I have to be very careful, otherwise you might be maligning certain fast food companies. But it's about getting people to enjoy life. So one of the things we're like on Friday, we filmed something called Forever's Friday where my wife and I never dance. We prance around to a piece of music. It could be Happy Days, it could be Happy Feet, it could be anything. And we just prance around and we have a laugh and people watch that and makes them laugh. And if you're laughing, the world is so much nicer. So that's what it's all about. And we're raising bits of money. 365. We're trying to raise up to 365,000. We've done about 25,000 so far. We will be issuing an app at some point in the next six to eight months, which is aimed specifically because we were asked to by the occupational therapists if we can come up with an app that people do. Not need to go onto YouTube, because obviously they're on YouTube, on Twitter and TikTok, et cetera, but they don't want people don't want to do that. They try to find an app which gives them the exercise. So working with occupational therapists, it will be a multipurpose app where people able body can do the exercise and the not so body can actually do an exercise. And one of the people will do it for us is a lady called Nancy in America, who is 58, I believe. Amazing lady. She was born with 40 medical conditions. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:15:58]: Wow. David Baum [00:15:59]: The doctors will convince you survive, including handle bones had to be fused. She has Lsdloss, which, if anyone knows that's, floppy joint syndrome, but worse. And she's probably in an Anna wheelchair, unfortunately, because of a child knocking a robe. She'd be a teacher, but she every day she takes the films that we do, the exercise we do, and she adapts it and she goes to a gym. It's in Texas and Corpus Christi, Texas, song is and she said her gym, her PT thinks it's amazing and she's helping her create more exercises that can be shared. Pretty cool way of doing things. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:16:45]: Yeah, definitely. I love that. That is really good stuff. So for people who are listening to this and the descriptions that you gave earlier on, I was thinking, yeah, that's me. Doesn't like the gym. David Baum [00:17:00]: A bit. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:17:01]: Bit apprehensive always lasts to be picked at PE. David Baum [00:17:07]: My position of football is left back in the changing rooms. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:17:09]: That's the one. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. And, boy, it sticks with you, doesn't it? It sticks with you through life. So I guess is it any wonder so many of us are unfit when we don't get the right sort of. David Baum [00:17:26]: People sort of call me the Geriatric Joe Wicks. The Geriatric generation is not that you see Joe Wicks and he's an amazing man. And so many of the Pts are fantastically fit men and women, and they really have an amazing attitude and outlook to life. But someone who's sitting at home doesn't have the compunction to go run a marathon or even run around the block. But they're told by their doctors, you got to get fit. I was freaking my doctors out at 59 and 60. That my blood sugars. I was pre prediabetic because it'd been at 55.9. So I changed my diet to a keto lifestyle. My blood sugars and cholesterols went down and it can retain down, but that's because I made a conscious decision. I didn't want to go on metformin or any of the insulin. The trouble with a lot of people, it's easier to use medication, not understanding. You don't need the medication because all type two diabetes generally is is caused by a fatty liver and fatty pancreas. And the NHS came up with this Crash 800 diet, which has been proven to work. But we must not forget the NHS gets high. Lots of funding from pharmaceutical companies. So, again, I have to be very careful so people can make a choice. You can sit at home and do nothing. You can sit at home, put on Facebook, see our daily exercise and do that once a day or twice or three times or do half an hour of it. Build your get your heart rate going and suddenly realize you can actually do things. Go for a walk just walking around. It's kind of summer now. It's beautiful. We run a group on Facebook, tranceability group. And the aim of the 10,000 steps is the biggest rubbish I've ever heard anyway. And I know the reals and I will tell the true story. How? Why? We have the 10,000 step rule. This is no scientific fact. This is truth. And I love this. In the 1960s there was a Japanese pedometer company whose brand was called the 10,000 step Pedometer. A gentleman who worked for an insurance company bought one and he was walking around and the insurance company had run some sort of test study over a few years and they made an amazing discovery. People who exercised had less illnesses. Who knew? Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:20:12]: Yeah indeed. David Baum [00:20:13]: They said well okay that's pretty damn good, what are we going to do? And they came up with the idea well we better have get people exercising. And this bright spot said well I've got a pedometer here, I walk 10,000 steps a day. And somebody has calculated that's about 5. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:20:30]: Miles. David Baum [00:20:33]: That'S what we're going to do. Perfect magic. And everyone's latched onto this 10,000 step rule. Except there's only one problem with that. 10,000 meandering steps around your flat or your house does nothing for you. You're physically 5000 marching steps or 5000 run. It's much more effective to improve your body for 10,000 things so people succeed from this 10,000. So with the accountability group we say to people that you're accountable to yourself. Share what you do if it's only 500 steps. 500 because no one knows if you've not been well. Yes this morning, today I went for a swim according to me and I've done just about 4000 steps but I did 38 lengths of the swimming pool, got my heart rate going 10,000. And if I was on these policies where you got to do 10,000 steps a day I would be penalized. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:21:38]: Even though you've done the marathon? David Baum [00:21:41]: It was 64,000 steps to run the marathon. So the next day on the Monday I didn't even do 2000 because I was so knackered again I would have been penalized. We've got to get people to understand living well is not about pushing weights and being Arnold Schwarzenegger. Living well is about exercising within your own capabilities. Eating better food. Now that doesn't mean spending a fortune in Fortnum Mesas and Harrods. Eating healthy means don't have the fast food every day. It should be a treat not a diet lifestyle. Yeah there's nothing wrong with a glass of wine, a chocolate. Again in this old fashioned way of word of moderation, laugh, watch a comedy, just laugh. I mean, there's great laughter, yoga programs out there that makes you feel good, but it's all about moving and wellness and enjoying life. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:22:48]: Got it. So for someone who's been listening to this and thinking, yeah, maybe I should do a little bit more, but I just don't know how to start. What will be a simple way for them to start incorporating a bit more constructive? David Baum [00:23:03]: It's very simple. If they want, look at us at Facebook or Twitter or Instagram. We've got all the links there. And just pick up the exercise we're doing today. So this morning I filmed myself sitting in a chair with the resistant bands and just bringing my feet up and down. Yesterday, I'm seeing arm curls. I used a banana because not everyone's got a piece of equipment. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:23:31]: True. David Baum [00:23:32]: And whereas people think you have to and you see these idiots in the gym and I got really angry. Most of the trainers I know get very, very angry. And they are and they're humping and they're shouting and it does nothing, and they watch them and they like big, blown out people. That's not healthy, that's just ego. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:23:53]: Yeah. David Baum [00:23:54]: So if all you got is it goes everywhere, one, two, three that's exercise. Anyone can do it. But if no one is sure, and they're not quite sure, best way of doing it, always contact me. And if they're nearby, I'm always happy to meet up with someone and go through things with them. If they're not, I know some amazing men and women who take great pleasure in helping people enjoy life. And they're not there to make money, they're there to help people. Because if they can get them healthier, they make them feel good. Because Pts are not in it to make money. Well, they are there to obviously live, but they're not there to be this great. As I said, ever so often, you get a Joe Wicks or Mr. Motivator or the Green Goddess or someone that will prick everyone's conscious. But the majority are very good, very well meaning men and women. And there's some amazing people. In fact, anyone watch GB news who sees Nano Kur on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday won't know that she originally was a PT. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:25:16]: All right? David Baum [00:25:17]: Amazing lady. So nice people out there. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:25:21]: Yeah. Love it. This has been a fascinating and long overdue chat, David. Thank you so much for joining me and for sharing some really useful insights into how we can all do that little bit more. And it doesn't have to be going down to the gym seven days a week and doing all those arm curls until your arms fall off. Just start with just movement. Just start with a little bit. David Baum [00:25:50]: If you walk around your house for five minutes yeah. How hard is that around your flat? Yeah. Someone said, I only live in a bed sit. Okay, you can walk around your bed sit if you got a chair, you put your feet you can do sit ups on the chair, put your feet on the ground, do curls. You don't need any specific equipment. The thing is, you've got to get your heart racing. Not racing, but basically a bit more elevate it. Yeah, elevate your heart. That's the word, that's the chapter. Elevate your heart rate. And suddenly realize actually, that's okay. And a lot of people's troubles, once they start doing that, they start feeling, well, I should be doing a bit more than that. And then they get scared. And as I said, if people get to that point, speak to me, I've got a problem. I'm there at the end of they can text me. Can I have a conversation? I can't charge. I'm happy. Someone said to me this morning, what are your hopes for? I said, you know, what if when I die, I'm 65? So let's say I've got another 25 years. I'll say everyone dies eventually. I'm not interested in living forever. I'm not a Highlander. I don't want to live forever. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:27:02]: It would get a bit boring after a while, wouldn't? David Baum [00:27:03]: Yes, boring. But when I die, all I want people to say is, actually, David was a silly man. He ran around in those two too. But he changed one person's life. And anyone that I'm helping change their life, all I ever ask them to do is help somebody else pay it forward. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:27:27]: Beautiful. David Baum [00:27:27]: And we can change the world. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:27:29]: Certainly can. People want to get in touch. You're across all of the socials. I'll put all of the links into the show notes for this episode. David Baum [00:27:38]: If they want to send me a text, might be the easiest way. Which is better, give it out I suppose 0786-138-6466, or if you're phoning from outside the country, 0044 Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:27:53]: Yeah, that's the one. So, yeah, give a text, give me a call, or all the links will be in the show notes, which you can get the usual place. Go to keithplatemornoble.com show is very important. It is indeed. It is indeed. David Baum [00:28:11]: Backsplash. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:28:14]: Yeah. They could have used a different character, I suppose it would have made it slightly easier. But hey, there we go. But yeah, get in touch with David and get moving. David Baum [00:28:28]: Get moving. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:28:29]: David, thank you so much for taking the time out to join us with this. David Baum [00:28:35]: Thank you so much for asking me. My pleasure. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:28:37]: And thank you, dear listener, for tuning into this episode. Remember to give us a like, give us a subscribe tune into the next ones. I'll catch you in another episode very soon. I'm going to leave you with a lovely quote that David shared with me while we were having a chat just before the episode. He says, Wake up positive, go to bed positive. And the day has not been wasted.