Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:00:33]: Hello, hello, welcome back. Welcome to, well, this is the 100th episode of the Keith Blake more noble radio show. Yep, I can't believe it myself 100 episodes and we're still going. And that is down to you for listening, for subscribing, for giving me your comments and for sharing it. So thank you so much for your support over the years. We're in our fourth series now, 100 episodes in total. Amazing, I still can't believe it. I have got a cracking guest for this episode. This gentleman has been on before. When I was looking for guests for the 100th episode, I thought this chat is gonna make for a really good 1. Why? Well, After 8 years of having his own podcast, my guest started producing and helping other people create their podcasts. He wants to help other businesses and communities to tell their stories via podcasting. He does it through his own, he's launched his own radio station, Grow Radio, where you can find this very podcast on Grow Radio. His name is Gary Jones, he's from Grow Radio, he helps businesses engage with their audiences online, helps to overcome fears about podcasting. As a podcast producer, editor and trainer, he can cover all aspects of podcasting from the creation of your show all the way to the marketing of it. You can see why I thought this would be an ideal, the ideal guest to have for the 100th episode. Gary Jones [00:02:03]: Gary Jones, let's bring him in. Hello Gary, how are you doing? I'm all good and congratulations on your 100th episode. It's a massive milestone, well played. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:02:14]: Yeah, thank you so much, Thank you. Yeah, I still can't believe it myself actually, to be fair. I managed to keep it going through thick and thin thin for the hundred. So yeah, we're gonna talk all things podcasts. We're gonna explore things like why people should listen to podcasts, how you can engage with the podcaster and the importance of the audience doing that. And we're also going to look at the ins and outs of podcasting and how anybody listening to this could go about launching their own podcast. We'll look at some of the common mistakes to avoid. Before we get into all of that though, I do have to ask you, we've heard your bio, but who is Gary Jones? Who is the man behind the bio? Gary Jones [00:02:56]: So behind the bio, behind the kind of business, I'm a guy who likes comics, I'm a guy who likes walking his dogs, I like watching Marvel, DC films and all that kind of stuff. But mainly, in terms of business related, I just want to help people tell their story. I started off as a retailer years and years and years ago, worked in various different places and loads of different locations and the need to help people change with the products I was selling and I kind of moved into a more marketing role and from the marketing role I started to learn how to podcast and then I realized when actually it's good for me to tell my story and good to hear people have their story shared on my platforms on my podcast but actually I want to start talking to them and teaching them how to do it for them. I want to start empowering them to do their own. And fast forward to now, I'm the person who has got a podcast, who's got a radio station, my business is growing each month. And I love still love comics and Marvel stuff and watching films and walking the dogs. That's kind of me in a nutshell. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:04:08]: Beautiful, beautiful and a great nutshell it is too. I love that though. I love it. And it has been interesting watching your journey because we've known each other for a good few years now, since well before the days of Grow Radio and so on. It's been inspiring watching your journey, watching how you've taken this and run with it because over the years I've known a few people who've gone, oh yes I can teach your podcasts and they kind of come and go but you've stayed the distance, you've built, you're still building and I know you've got some, I'm not going to spill the beans because they're secrets for you at the moment, but I know you've got more plans both with the radio show and and stuff beyond. It's great to see you Gary Jones [00:04:50]: really making this happen. Oh bless you, thank you and yeah we've known each other for a number of years now and we work together on a different kind of projects, a couple of my live events as well you've been part of and what's really cool about people like yourself, you've got the drive and the passion to keep going and you're right, there are people who have done podcasting training, podcast launches and all that kind of stuff. And it's just like anything in marketing, consistency will ultimately win out compared to anything else. You know, consistency is the main thing. And if I look back on when I first started podcasting, kind of now probably 10 years ago I'd say. If I started listening to podcasts 12 years ago, started my own business yeah about 8 to 10 years ago. Compared to the podcasts I used to do then, compared to what I do now, it's a whole different ball game. And I'm sure you've seen your podcast journey from the episode number 1 to now. It's a completely different journey as well, but it's consistency. It's about keeping it fresh and also just keep developing your skills. You know, before this, we were talking about the different tech different ways we can record this and how it make how the platform we're using now makes it a lot more refined compared to another platform we were using. It's all about just continually doing it but the consistency is the big big big thing in anything we do. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:06:19]: Absolutely you're absolutely right there it is it is the consistency and you're right I mean if I listen to earlier shows that I've recorded there's lots of stuff that I see in there and hear in there I'm thinking oh I wouldn't do it that way now but I don't regret having done it that uh that way no because that that's how I learn Gary Jones [00:06:38]: yeah and also I don't know about you but when I first started podcasting years and years ago the questions I was asking and the topics I was asking were the topics and questions that I wanted to know about. So at that point I was in a full-time job transitioning into a self-employed kind of growing my business. So I was talking to people about the turning points in their careers when they went from being employed to being self-employed or setting up their business, talking about how to turn their passion into a business or turning, making sure that they're kind of interlinked and that And I was talking to people about those topics because I was interested in it. And it was, that's what I wanted to hear. And that's what I wanted to learn from them. And since I've gone along, my questions change completely because actually now it's not about what I want to learn. It's about what the audiences want to learn and it's about placing them right in the center of the podcast which you have to go through that journey to be able to do that. You can't learn that straight away from day 1, it just doesn't work. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:07:43]: Absolutely yeah. So let's break this down. So I guess the first question is, why should anyone listen to a podcast? Why would people want to listen to them? Why do people want to read books or why do people want to watch a film? Gary Jones [00:07:59]: From my personal experiences, when I started to listen to podcasts it gave me a much better insight into the topic that I was listening to so at the time I was interested in marathon running and triathlons so what a pod so that podcast allowed me to understand the athletes a little bit more it actually allowed me to listen to their voice as well which meant I got to know them more which sounds silly but it's it's so true listen to someone's voice does make a massive difference in the know like trust process but also I got to understand their training methods beforehand what the actual races what went well what didn't go well and also they tend to discuss different stuff they put into articles and interviews. So I learnt a lot more stuff from that and I've taken that kind of way of learning all the way ever since then. So if I want to learn about SEO or Instagram Reels or something to do with accounts I didn't know, I'd probably listen to I'd listen to a podcast in the past and I've learned from that And I've managed to gather so many different bits of insights that I probably wouldn't have necessarily thought of it or it would have took me ages to find out because I didn't have all the contents at hand. But listening to podcasts actually allows me to learn a lot, lot, lot quicker. As well as learning, some people listen to podcasts to relax. So it's great for storytelling and you can get lost properly into a story, especially if it's been constructed for a podcast and each individual episode is a segment of that story. It's brilliant to get immersed in that kind of storytelling. So some people like to listen to that, but also it kind of does take up that little bit of dull time when you're driving, that you just want something in the background to listen to. You can learn a bit more about your favorite show TV show movie comedian whatever your kind of vices will be but for me listen to a podcast you can get so much out of it. Learning, relaxing, personal preference. But really, really, really, really cool way of just switching off. It helps me to switch off my logging more importantly. But 1 thing that a podcast also does, and this is something I'm really passionate about, is helping your community develop their skills and giving massive value to them. So if you don't mind, I would love to talk about community a little bit as well because I really do feel that with podcasting community they go hand in hand and if you work and first of all if you put your community right in the center of your podcast right from the beginning so when you're coming up with your idea for your podcast, you straight away know who your community is. You know what messages they want to listen to. You know what ideal length of show they're gonna want to listen to because you know what their habits are. You know what platforms to share it on, on social media, because you know they're going to. The more stuff you put into your podcast about the community, especially when it comes to questions and topics that you want them to kind of understand and engage with because they're going through at the same time, your podcast will not only just become a podcast but it will become a tool for change and actually it will give that community massive, massive value. So going back to the original question of why you should listen to a podcast, if you've got a podcast and it's teaching you and giving you massive value why wouldn't you listen to a podcast putting community is so so important so being part of the community and having a podcast for me goes hand in hand. You just need to make sure that actually you've got the right content for that community and then that content, that community will help that podcast grow. And when you Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:12:04]: do find podcasts that you enjoy, you like listening to them, yeah, do get in touch with the host, get in touch with the guests. Even simple things like giving them the podcast, a like wherever you see it promoted a like because chances are the podcasters are going to be reading those comments and we love it when we see what people think of it. We get the feedback. It helps us make it even better for future ones. We will sometimes get in touch with people if they particularly like it. And yeah even things like if you find a good podcast that you like, share it, tell your mates about it, subscribe, Subscribe to the podcast. I discovered the other day a completely free way you can help a podcast is even if you don't use Apple podcasts itself to listen to your podcasts, but if you find a good podcast you like, find it on there, subscribe to it on there. Even if you never listen to it on there it increases the subscriber figures which which makes it easier for other people to find that podcast simple things like that and and get in touch I mean it's it's lovely when you when you start to see the same names commenting again and again you start to get build a connection with them they start to build a connection with you as you say it's community it's all about community. Gary Jones [00:13:24]: Yeah and we spend our time creating this content you know we're not paid to do it for me podcasting is a way of just pure value to anyone who I speak to so for me it's about making sure that actually someone does comment I comment back I reply back because again why wouldn't I but also you're missing an opportunity there you know you're developing that relationship and as I said we don't get paid to do this. Podcasting is a labor of love for most people. So given that light, given that review, subscribing, sharing, it honestly does mean that much. It does mean a hell of a lot to the vast vast vast majority of podcasters out there so yeah even if you you know actually stuff if you listen to an episode on somewhere and you've got a podcast that you love and you listen to, leave a review straight away. Pop on there, leave a review. Share it on your socials. Do it now because it means the world to any podcast for you to do that. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:14:31]: Absolutely. Absolutely. And of course, there's a benefit to you as well when we do that you have the chance of that podcast being successful and lasting which means more episodes to listen to. Win-win. Gary Jones [00:14:44]: Boom, boom. Also with community we haven't mentioned it yet but there are podcasts like if you've got a Patreon or a subscriber area where you get exclusive content and all that kind of stuff. If you like that podcast and they've got 1, pop on there, pop on there. Normally they only start from a couple of quid upwards, but again, that means so much. So if you can be part of an exclusive community whether that's on Patreon or other subscription-based are available, yeah go for it. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:15:13]: Absolutely And you mentioned Patreon there. You and I had a chat just before recording this. Gary's very, very kindly gonna stick back at the end of this. We're gonna, purely for my Patreon supporters, where we're gonna be sharing more tips on building communities around your podcast. So if you are a Patreon supporter after this episode, go and catch that. You'll get the email when it comes out anyway, but go catch that on Patreon. If you're not a Patreon supporter, go to Patreon, sign up, support it, and you'll be able to get access to that and all the other bonus content. Now this spot could be featuring you. There are 3 different levels at which you can sponsor. We've got a bronze level where you get to sponsor 1 month's worth of episodes of the Keith Blakemore Noble Radio Show. You get your advert played in this part of the show. You get mentioned in the show notes and you also get mentioned in most of the social media promo for those episodes. Or we got the silver level where you get all of that plus you get sponsorship of the 5 minute meditation podcast as well. So you get promoted in 8 lots of show notes, 8 lots of promos, and you get mentioned with a link on the sponsorship page on the website, or there's the top 1, the gold level, where you get all of that, plus you get a guest blog on the KeithBlakeMooreNoble.com website, plus we'll record a special bonus episode of the Keith Blakemore Noble Radio Show featuring you. 3 different levels, whichever 1 you want, it's up to you. Just go to keithblakemorenoble.com slash show slash support to find out more. And you could be our next sponsor in this spot. Now where were we? So we've explored why people listen to podcasts, what they get from them, we've explored how we can engage with podcasts that we enjoy and that we like. There are podcasts which cover pretty much every interest that 1 might have. There's always room for more podcasts, of course. Everybody has their own unique take on things. There will be people listening to this or thinking, well, yeah, maybe it would be nice to start a podcast. It's probably difficult. You need vast expensive equipment. You need big teams to do it. You need all sorts of, do we need that? How can, how can we, how can we go about launching a podcast? Gary Jones [00:17:38]: So when I first started my podcast, um, it was after a, just a slightly drunken tweet to, if I can guess on 1 of their shows, had a meeting the following day with them because it was on Sunday afternoon had a meeting with them on Monday afternoon and they offered me my own radio show so I had 2 weeks Fable Alfa wasn't this 1 this 1 was a much much older model than this. But I had 2 weeks on a mobile phone to learn how to produce a radio show, which back in that day for that station was a podcast. Basically you record a podcast, then you upload it to their server, and then they'll broadcast it at the time and date, so therefore giving you a radio show. So I had 2 weeks. So in terms of technology, a lot of people think you need, as you said, vast amounts of technology, vast amounts of equipment. The truth is you don't. What you need is an absolutely kick-ass idea. An idea is going to take the equipment you need and equipment will. Because that equipment you buy which is probably for you know anywhere from 200 to 200 pounds to 2 grand or above if you haven't got a good idea and you stop podcasting after 20 episodes because you haven't thought it through that's good to be collecting just like that expensive golf kit or that expensive bike that you've never rode because you're scared to go out on the roads. So for me the equipment is a kind of a it's not an excuse because you do need something to record on. That's true, you need somehow to get your voice onto that. You also need somewhere to edit if you wanted to or create the actual file, which again, your mobile phone, you can quite happily use those. And you need somewhere to market it, so you need somewhere to pop it onto the channels, so it can go onto places like Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and all those kind of places. So you do need a certain level of technology, but as I said right at the start it's all about that consistency and if you look at the long game for podcasting you can prove over time you can buy that microphone if you want to after 10 episodes you can buy that a computer to edit and kind of the new software to make it a little bit more fancy after a while. If it gets successful, hell you can outsource most of those kind of stuff. But at the start, you don't. You need 1 thing and that's a kick-ass idea. And that idea again funny enough we've already mentioned it places your community right at the heart of it. It means that actually you have a plan for those weeks where you're not feeling good or you're too busy at work and you can't record an episode so therefore you've got all in reserve. The plan focuses on all of those and that's what I spend a lot of my time talking about. So no, you don't need equipment, you don't need fancy equipment to start it. All you need is a good kick-ass idea and then work from there. You can build over over time. It really doesn't. Yeah, I went on a live probably about a month ago. And the first question I got asked was all about the equipment. And then I turned it right on its head and spoke about the idea because the equipment is 1 of the biggest things where people get hung up on and it shouldn't be that at all. People don't really care what kind of tiles you've got in the background. They really don't. What they care about is your content and the way that you're delivering it and the value that they're gonna get from that. Absolutely, yeah, it's the content and the value and the consistency, as you say. I mean, when Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:21:31]: I first started in podcasting, initially I did it audio only, I used to just use either my laptop and the microphone on the laptop to record it or sometimes when I was out and about I actually had, you remember those old dictaphones? Those little handheld record? Just use that with a little clip on mic. It worked. Built up from there. I mean, these days I use the Blue Snowball microphone. That was, I think that's the biggest expense I've on the podcast was getting that, the Blue snowball with a nice little microphone stand so you get much nicer quality, but that wasn't until I'd got quite a few episodes under my belt. And when I started with video, I had a camcorder, so I just used that to record it. Then I started doing it online, so I started using Zoom, recorded with zoom. Now I use a slightly different package. I've gone to 1 stream live. The package that I use has got the studio and everything in it, but you don't need all of those. You can just, if you're able to, uh, to, to speak to someone and record what they're saying, that's it. Gary Jones [00:22:48]: Yeah. And, and I started off with literally my phone talking to people face to face in coffee shops going like that yeah people back to the mic yeah yeah yeah and the good thing about this um and just starting kind of bare bones is first of all you learn the trade you'd learn the mistake you kind of make all the mistakes that you can possibly kind of golf even the ones that you've read about and you think I'm never gonna do that you do it so you'd learn from that But all the microphone does or all the fancy equipment does, it just minimizes the space between the mouth and the recording device. That's all it does. Drop all of the voice bouncing off all the different places and getting all of those kind of echoes. So today I'm using a Blue Yeti Pro which is just a Logitech's equipment same as yours. I've got a web which is placed to laptop because I'm recording it from home. If I'm in a studio, I'd have the Rode Procaster mic, I'd have mixer desk, I'd have Shure phones and have it recorded. But you don't need all that. You can literally start going like that and I released a blog the week or 4 about no it wasn't a blog it's part of the new online course I'm creating about should you use video should you start with video or just go audio only and the ultimately it's just about what's best for you and if starting off audio is best for you do it because from episode 10 or 20 start incorporating video exactly yeah it's nice added bonus for the people who are listening and engaging with it. Yeah. But start, start Bare Bones. Start Bare Bones and go from there. Now, when I say start Bare Bones, Bare Bones for people are gonna be different levels. Yeah. So some people are gonna wanna go with Digital Mike straight away and Limits index straight away. That's fine for them but you don't need to. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:24:56]: So I guess what I'm going to sum up is what equipment do you need to start a podcast? Start with what you have. Yeah, guarantee everybody gets episode whether you're listening to it. Everybody has got all the equipment they need to create a podcast. Well, While you were talking about that, a thought just came to mind. We can think of films where they've had all the expensive equipment, all the huge stars, massive CGI, and you watch the film and you go, well that was a load of rubbish. On the other end, you can get these films which are all like 1 level of film in terms of quality of the the character and maybe the acting quality and so on but the storyline that they've got there you're watching it you're thinking it looks a bit cheesy and next thing you know you're kind of you're hooked you're invested because they've got really good story in there so it's not the equipment it's what you're doing with it the story for for a film or whatever and for a podcast it's Gary Jones [00:26:01]: what's the content that you're getting across? It's so true, so true and as I said right at the start I'm a big comic book and Marvel fan and recently, well not recently, back at the start of the year Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania got released and that is they've spent millions and millions and millions pounds on it and they've had a number of different writers kind of input their stuff different rewrites here there and everywhere and it's not uncommon for big massive massive kind of scale projects to have rewrite kind of stuff but it got lost, the storyline got lost in it and it felt disjointed and a lot of people have said that. So it's not just my saying that, a lot of people have said that. And that's because too many people have kind of had their inputs on it. They focused on the visuals rather than the storyline. Something like Guardians of the Galaxy 3 that's just come out using Marvel Expression. 1 person from start to finish. Much better for consistency, much better for tone of voice. And it works as a film so much better than having various people, various different inputs, various editing kind of things happening to it, which kind of takes it away from the original purpose. So if you are looking to start a podcast or start being a guest on a podcast, or just start engaging with podcast, your idea of what you want to share with people and stick with it. Yeah, that's probably my biggest thing and with podcasting and especially launching a podcast, make sure that it's a common thread all the way through your podcast, through episodes, through your series. Make sure that thread, that idea is firmly based in your community. That's the, again, going back to community, so important. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:27:54]: Absolutely, absolutely. It kind of goes back to what's your vision for your podcast? What's the point? I don't mean that, oh, what's the point? But I mean, what is the point of your particular podcast? What does it do for people? And always- Gary Jones [00:28:10]: What's it gonna achieve is a big question I ask everyone who's looking to launch a podcast. Not just for you as a person, but as your business, if it's related to a business or your community venture, whatever it is, what's it gonna do for you? What's it gonna give you personally? What's it gonna give your business? And what's it gonna give the community? And Don't just look at it from a short term point of view as in next couple of months, it's going to give me this long term. Think about it in terms of months, a couple of years, well, a couple of months, a year, 3 years, 5 years, 10 years. If you think about it, light out. Suddenly you're not going to have to worry about the vast amount of stuff you're going to need to do because hell this time I'll be I'll be still doing it and I'll have all the equipment now it's just kind of pointing that journey. Yes Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:29:00]: yeah you can always build on it you can always increase, you can add your equipment, add your software, outsource stuff as you go along, but start with that core. I don't know about you, I think there's 1 thing I'd add to that, because sometimes people think, oh, but I've got to get it all right right out of the outset. Not necessarily yes it's possible your core theme will evolve over time but it's evolving it's not jumping around so I mean take your Guardians of the Galaxy example, I'm sure when the writer first had the idea it probably isn't the same as the finished but it's evolved through his vision he's allowed to evolve to create what he wanted. Gary Jones [00:29:51]: So he actually did an interview um so James Gunn who wrote Guardians of the Galaxy for the for Marvel for the MCU um he actually um spoke about the um how he wrote Guardians of the Galaxy and more importantly did the effects of the previous films which the Guardians were in for the MCU, did that affect his final film? And he said no. He always had division of the third film being as it is when he wrote the first film. So basically he wrote the film in 3 parts or the saga in 3 parts right from the start. So it ran all the way through. Bit minor things changed. Characters did different things because they were in different places at different times but the same themes kind of ran all the way through so if you watch kind of film 1 to film 3 yeah and you kind of have a general understanding of the overarching kind of matter that's going on you'll kind of work you'll see it as a saga rather than just 3 individual films in part of those um but he was a great he's a great example of story writing storytelling and have an overarching view of it rather than just focusing on episode by episode, per episode, per episode. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:31:09]: Yeah, nice, nice. Which is actually, I mean, why not? Let's use MCU as a good example of this. It's an illustration of the importance of having that overarching view of where things are going, the consistency of the characters across the different films, not just those 3 films but but the entire uh are we into 5 phase 5 yet or is it still phase 4 at the moment we're slap bang in the middle of yeah we're in phase 5 now yeah but we're in phase 5 which means there's Gary Jones [00:31:44]: there's over 20 there's over 30 different programs and stuff that people could watch from start to finish over the last 18 odd years so massive amount of kind of massive amount of content out there um if we're talking about the MCU 1 thing that I would love to talk to people just quickly about is about making it really as complicated as sim actually making it as simple as for them as podcasters to communicate their language, their story, their ideas to their audiences. Because 1 thing that the MCUs does really well, but doesn't do very well at the same time, is they tell everybody what's going to come up. So they tell people about what's going to come up over the next kind of few years so we're in phase 5, phase 6 and 5, 7 is going to be coming out soon and this these are the programs which you can do but then obviously things change and timings change and programs and shifted and all that kind of stuff. So for your podcast have a plan and have a plan for the long term. It's good to communicate it to a certain point to your audiences to tell them what's going to come up but don't tell them and then keep changing and changing and changing because at some point the audience is going to go do you know what actually do you know what they what they're doing um and I think that's a problem that the mcu is having at the moment they've told everybody they're going to release loads of content over the next few years but actually they're struggling to keep up because of the demands that they've put them put upon themselves they've made a lot of very backs because they've said they're going to release 10 different projects every year but realistically you can't produce that amount of content. So when you're looking at podcasts and to communicate it to your people, to community, make sure you're giving them realistic kind of objectives in terms of what you're gonna, but also make sure it fits into your life and your business and what your commitments are. Because there's no point starting a podcast and then not finishing it. And we saw that over lockdown. So many people started podcasts over lockdown and then realized, Well actually, real life started to kick off now. I can get back to my job or I can go back out now. So it stopped. So we don't need to do that. So if you are looking to launch a podcast or get on a podcast, make sure actually you have got a plan and you can fulfill that plan. Don't start it and then just stop it halfway or you know just keep changing the goalposts. We have gone on a bit of a divert on that and I've gone on a bit of a rant so apologies. But yeah just make sure that you've got yeah you've got a plan and yeah you can share a bit but not too much. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:34:35]: Yes yes I like that. Share but don't overshare keep keep keep some of it in reserve. It gives you gives you some leeway to to adjust things if you need to and it also gives you plenty of surprises that you can give people. Gary Jones [00:34:49]: Yeah exactly and the thing is you might have a couple of projects fully formed or a couple of episodes fully done and ready to go you're just waiting for the right time and that's really cool having it in your back pocket so actually you can just release them as a bonus episode or pop it on patreon or wherever it is you don't have to release it all in 1 go. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:35:09]: Yeah brilliant. I think that's a good point for us to uh a good point for us to stop. I think we've picked up a lot over the course of this episode. It has certainly gone in directions that I think neither of us expected it would at the time. But hey isn't that true of podcasting in general? You know when you create a podcast it will start to take a life of its own and you allow it that to breathe and create something which often turns out to be so much better than you'd originally planned. Gary for people who are listening and 1 or watching and find out more or we get in touch with you or find a sample of the kind of stuff that you do, what's the best place for them to do that? Gary Jones [00:35:53]: So the best place to go to is go to the website growradio.uk and it doesn't matter what level of podcasting you're at, whether you just want to listen to some podcasts or you want to get on a few podcasts or you've got a podcast you want to showcase on the radio station, if you pop onto radio.uk, there's different areas of the websites that will be available for you. That will give you those opportunities. It also has all the social links as well. So we are on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn, and all those kind of places. So obviously follow us on there. But the best place to do it is to go to Grey Radio and start tuning in and listen to some of the shows. That's the easiest way to do that and on there as well if you do like 1 of the shows, connect with the show and let them know as we said before and then follow me on Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:36:43]: Spotify Gary Jones [00:36:43]: or wherever you listen to your podcasts. But yeah, check out the website. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:36:47]: Brilliant. So that's grow radio.uk. Check it out there. As Gary says, you'll find a, you'll find a plethora of podcasts on there, including this, this very podcast. Very, very honored that Gary allowed us to to place this show on Grow Radio. There's some excellent ones there. New podcast on the hour every hour so whatever you're into you'll find something on there that you like and that'll maybe inspire you to look at creating your own and when you're ready to do that, Gary's your man. Thank you so much for spending the 100th episode of the Keith Blake more noble radio show with me it's it's been absolute blast I knew it would be uh I've thoroughly enjoyed it and I also loved our little delve into into the mcu as well there Gary Jones [00:37:43]: yeah I didn't realize we were going to talk about it it was quite good fun last question for you Keith because obviously you've been asking all the questions and thank you very much for doing it, but this is the 100th show. For all the listeners out there, what's next for you? What have you got planned for the next 100 episodes? There's a little sneak peek. Oh now that is a good question Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:38:06]: and I'm gonna go back to pretty much the last piece of advice that you gave. Give people some information but don't give them too much because sometimes plans change and sometimes you want to give them a surprise. I have, I can tell you I've actually got 3 guests who I am currently attempting to negotiate getting them on. They're certainly stepping up a couple of levels in terms of who they are and their popularity etc. I think I know each of them will be incredibly interesting episodes not just because of the name of the person but their backstory and what we can learn from them. So that's what I'm looking to bring for the in the near-ish future. So the next 100 episodes yeah why not the next 100 episodes let's go for it. It's good to mix half the episode with me and the guest, half the episodes will be me talking about mindset and sharing tips and tools and techniques and so on But I have got a few higher caliber guests that I'm in negotiations with at the moment. I won't say any more because A it's nice to have a surprise and B I don't want to say and then they don't then it then it falls through. Gary Jones [00:39:28]: That's fair play but that's where we're going. That's a lovely question though. Thank you Gary. I just want to say again thank you for being part of this show and thank you very much for yeah being part of Grow Radio and all that stuff. We've worked together on a couple of different projects. No doubt we're going to be working with each other on a number of different projects as well. Not giving anything away but it will happen but yeah no thank you and thank you for yeah yeah thank you. Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:39:54]: Thank you Gary and thank you dear listener dear viewer however you're catching us remember give us a like a comment share subscribe, review, share it with your friends. And I'll catch you in another episode very soon. Take care, bye for now. Gary Jones [00:40:20]: You've been listening to the Keith Blakemore Noble Radio Show. To find out more, please visit KeithBlakemoreNoble.com